Dr. Francesca Yardenit Albertini
&
Masada2000.org Staff

APRIL 12, 2004 Email Exchange

 

[Francesca Yardenit Albertini, PhD]
I consider the current Israeli policy towards the (1) Palestinian people as a form of (2) Apartheid aiming at (3) destroying any chance of peace in (4) Middle East.

[Masada2000.org Response]
Your opening statement has four distortions of the truth and I'll bet you didn't even have a clue about it (1) What do you mean by "Palestinian People?" There is NO SUCH THING as "Palestinian People." There never was in the annals of history and there is none now... except in the minds of those too lazy to research some basic history or in the minds of those determined to de-legitimize the State of Israel.

Why is it that these A-R-A-B-S [I spelled out the word for you] never referred to themselves as "Palestinians" until AFTER 1948 to a lesser degree) and after 1967 (to a greater degree)? Until these dates, they called themselves, Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians, Lebanese, Saudis or just simply as A-R-A-B-S for that is precisely how they saw themselves. They or their grandparents immigrated from those other A-R-A-B countries. They were all part of the "A-R-A-B Nation." But certainly neither they nor anyone else thought of them as "Palestinians." At most, some considered themselves as "A-R-A-B Palestinians" or "A-R-A-B-S of Palestine" or "Palestinian A-R-A-B-S" but never as just "Palestinians." So why do you persist in perpetuating such a silly myth?

I trust you have heard of the "Palestine Post" newspaper which was founded in 1932? Do you think it was founded by A-R-A-B "Palestinians?" No, it was an entirely JEWISH "Palestinian" venture.  At the outbreak of World War II, the British who controlled "Palestine," created the Palestine Brigade. It was comprised of three "Palestine Regiments." It was an all-JEWISH fighting force. In fact, any A-R-A-B-S involved in the war effort fought on the German side! So why do you find it so impossible to think of a "Palestinian" as only an A-R-A-B?

The term "Palestine" is ONLY a geographical term. It has noting whatsoever to do with a distinct people, a distinct religion or a distinct people. It does have, however, a historical connection and that is with JEWISH history. It has nothing whatsoever to do with A-R-A-B-S! The Philistines, from which the name was derived, were not Arabs. Nor were they Jews. The term "Palestine" was simply chosen by the Romans because the Philistines were hardened enemies of the Israelis thousands of years before. The name "Palestine" was chosen to erase all Jewish historical connection to the land of Israel. And now that the Jews have miraculously re-formed their ancient nation after 2000 years, how ironic it is that A-R-A-B-S have now switched (in fact, stolen) that Jewish historical connection and made it their own! ANYONE living in the area called "Palestine" can be considered a "Palestinian."

There were Jewish "Palestinians" (before they became Israelis in 1948), Arab Muslim "Palestinians," Arab Christian "Palestinians"... and even Japanese and Filipino "Palestinians" if any had moved there! Even dogs and cats could be considered "Palestinians" just as much as the bulldog could rightly be considered "British!"

(2) When you say "apartheid," are you referring to the  Arabs living within Israeli society or in the so-called "occupied territories?" If you're referring to any Arab living WITHIN Israel Proper who calls himself a "Palestinian," then I must say that such an Arab citizen of Israel should be tossed out! He is an Israeli Arab (not a "Palestinian") at best and, more correctly, a fifth column squatter plotting to destroy the nation in which he is a "guest!" If you are charging that the Israeli-Arabs within Israel Proper are being subjected to apartheid, I'd have to say you nuts! Within Israel today, Jews are a majority, but the large Arab minority (23% of total) are FULL citizens with voting rights and representation in the government. They can sit in the Knesset (and plot daily the destruction of Israel), say what they like, go where they like, pray where they like, go into any business they like and make as many Israel-bashing Arab babies they like. The only exception is that Israeli Arabs do not serve in the army (for obvious reasons!).  Under the former South African apartheid system, black South Africans could not vote and were not citizens of the country in which they were the overwhelming majority of the population. Israeli Muslims, Christians, Druse and many other minority ethnic groups enjoy exactly the same civil and political rights as Jews.

Furthermore, there is nothing more hypercritical than 64 Arab/Islamic/Muslim theocracies and brutal dictatorships pronouncing judgment on issues relating to "discrimination" and "apartheid" when not a single one among them treats their minorities in the same tolerant way as Israel. Have you, Dr. Francesca Yardenit Albertini, PhD [yeah, I'm impressed] ever charged any one of those Arab/Muslim/Islamic repressive, anti-democratic fascist governments with apartheid, discrimination or the denial of basic human rights... or do you save all condemnations for Israel?

(3) You charge the Jews with "destroying the chance for peace." Is that why Israel handed the Egyptians every square inch of Sinai? Is that why those three Oslo stooges (Beilin, Peres and your personal friend, Rabin) blew the breath of life back into Arafat when they initiated the Oslo Peace Accords? Is that why the Israelis agreed to turn over nearly all of Judea-Samaria, Gaza and most of Jerusalem to the murderers of Jewish children in the hopes that A-R-A-B-S might stop killing Jews? Is that why Israel agreed to the terms of the "Road Map" even while Jews were being blown to pieces? If Israel were not interested in peace, why have they not bombed the A-R-A-B-S of YOUR "Palestine" into the next century? Believe me, the IDF could either drive out of kill every stinking A-R-A-B in one afternoon! But, instead, they continue to hope that the A-R-A-B-S will mature out of their Dark Ages and put an end to their hundred year war of extermination against the Jews of "Palestine." And so, if you really think peace is achievable, why don't you cool off your rhetoric against your fellow Jews and, for once in your miserable life, recognize the real source of the violent evil.

(4) You talk about "peace in the Middle East" as if what happens between the Israeli Jews and those fictional "Palestinians" determines the entire future of the Middle East. First of all, let's get our geography straight. The conflict between the Israelis and your "Palestinians" is NOT in the Middle East. The area is the Near East. Secondly, the "Palestinians" are the excuse to rid the Near East of non-Arabs... not the reason for the turmoil in the Near East or the Middle East. Would Iraq have not invaded Kuwait if Israel and the "Palestinians" were at peace? Would Iraq and Iran not fought a 10 year war with the deaths of one million people if Israel and the "Palestinians" were at peace? The "Palestinians" are being used as the head of the spear to deny the rights of Jews to their own "unalienable rights of self-determination." And so are self-hating Jews like you!

[Francesca Yardenit Albertini, PhD]  At present, Israel is lead by a war criminal (do you remember Chatila, for instance?)...

[Masada2000.org Response] I'd expect an Arab, a Neo-Nazi skinhead, Holocaust denier, a radical leftist like Rabbi Michael Lerner or an uninformed idiot to call Sharon a war criminal. Which one are you? Ariel Sharon is a war HERO. It was Sharon who took plenty of lead in the gut during all of Israel major wars started by your friends, the Arabs. The only lead you ever took was a self-inflicted pencil scrape. The reason why the Arabs and others call him a war criminal is because they can't stand to see a Jew fighting back... especially against an Arab. They prefer the timid Jew, the Jew about to have his skin pealed off for lampshades and his body fat boiled into soap.

Before dealing with your charges about the Sabra-Shatila massacres, let's review what brought the IDF into Lebanon in the first place.  Arafat's PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) had long turned Lebanon into an inter-Arab killing field after the Arab-"Palestinian" EAST BANK [Jordan] kicked them out in 1970 for trying to turn Jordan into another inter-Arab killing field!  All those do-gooders and bleeding hearts who today pretend to be outraged by the Sabra and Shatilla massacres in Lebanon have long forgotten the tens of thousands of people butchered in the Lebanese civil war in which the PLO played a leading role. The PLO Muslim "Palestinians" with the help of their Syrian sponsors, slaughtered tens of thousands of Maronite Christian Arabs. When Israel entered Lebanon, the most logical partners to rid Lebanon of the PLO thugs and the Syrian army were the Christian Maronites... or Phalangists, as their fighters were called.

In addition to instigating a civil war within Lebanon, the  PLO had also turned southern Lebanon into a launching pad and rocket base for attacking northern Israel. In 1982, when the number of nightly terror raids and rocket attacks into northern Israel had reached into the hundreds and Israelis were sick and tired of spending most of their time terrified in bunkers, the IDF launched its long-overdue invasion into southern Lebanon.

On Sept 14, 1982, Lebanese Christian Maronite President Bashir Gemayal was assassinated by a bomb (most likely planted by either the PLO or Syrians). Two days later, the Lebanese Christian Phalange troops entered into the PLO refugee camps, Sabra and Shatilla which was thought to hiding 2000 fully-armed PLO terrorists. Israeli troops were not inside the camps. All those "Monday morning quarterbacks" who NOW think the massacres were clearly foreseeable did not themselves foresee what would happen THEN. They also ignore the fact that Israeli troops did not have a legitimate basis to block the movements of the Lebanese Christian Phalangists -- the personal militia of the Lebanese president -- in their own country.

What happened next is pretty well known. Enraged Christian Lebanese Phalangist militia men went on a revenge killing spree. The exact number of "Palestinians" who died is unknown.  It was probably around 400, although the anti-Israel propagandists put it at 700-800 or more. But it was still peanuts compared with the number murdered in the fifteen year (1975-1990) Lebanese civil war brought by the Muslim PLO and Syrian Moslem troops upon the Christians.

The killings nevertheless shocked Israelis and galvanized the Israel-bashing street anarchists and chest-beating bleeding hearts around the world. It was also the trigger for a campaign by the Israeli Left to de-legitimize and demonize the Likud, Ariel Sharon and, indirectly, the State of Israel itself. Nanoseconds after the Israeli Left proclaimed Sharon and Begin to be war criminals, the anti-Semites of the world took their cue. That same demonization of Sharon persists even today as Arabs, Neo-Nazi skinheads, Holocaust deniers, radical leftists and uninformed idiots [again, which one of these are you?] still call Arik Sharon a war criminal.

The Sabra and Shatilla massacres were murders of Palestinian Arabs by Lebanese Christians Arabs. Not a single victim was killed by an Israeli or Jew. The very most that Sharon can be legitimately accused of in all of this is possibley the inability of not having E.S.P.  But being unable to read tea leaves or a crystal ball is not a "war crime" and it is certainly not "genocide." If it were, President Roosevelt would have been prosecuted for lacking the foresight to prevent Pearl Harbor.

And how curious it is that the very same Israeli leftists who insist that Sharon is a war criminal murderer because he did not have adequate foresight did not themselves have such foresight. Not a single leftist, not a single Israeli journalist and not a single Italian PhD professor of Jewish Philosophy predicted the Christian Phalangist Arabs would massacre "Palestinians." All these people still insist Sharon should have known better, but none of them knew better. And even if I were to concede that Sharon should have known better, that would make him guilty of poor judgment, not murder. It might mean he could have been impeached for being a fool, but not prosecuted for the massacres.

[Francesca Yardenit Albertini, PhD]
Ariel Sharon who said two years ago, namely at the beginning of my stay in Israel, that "we should protect our nation, our blood, our people". "Nation", "blood" and "people" were the key-words of Hitler as well as of every dictator in course of our history.

[Masada2000.org Response]
My, oh my, aren't we stretching it a bit to find an Israeli-Nazi behavior connection? Or has THAT been your main objective all along? The way Israelis protect "their nation, their blood and their people" is completely legitimate considering that the REAL Nazis... your Arab friends... are willing to fight for "every inch of land and with every last drop of their own blood." By the way, Israeli airport screeners slipped when they allowed YOU into the country!

[Francesca Yardenit Albertini, PhD]
When I teach Jewish Philosophy...

[Masada2000.org Response] May G-d help and protect your students from your vicious anti-Jewish, anti-Israel rhetoric!!!

[Francesca Yardenit Albertini, PhD] when I take part in "Machsom-Watch"  initiatives...

[Masada2000.org Response]
It figures you'd be involved in "snitching" operations, you filthy Judenrat!

[Francesca Yardenit Albertini, PhD]
when I read Moses, Maimonides and Hermann Cohen...

[Masada2000.org Response]
OK, so you're a friggin' Judenrat intellectual!

[Francesca Yardenit Albertini, PhD] I experience a form of Judaism which has nothing in common with racism, hate and disdain of human life.

[Masada2000.org Response]
I know just what kind of Judaism to which you refer. The very same kind that instills in Jews the will NOT to defend themselves and NOT to believe that anyone would want to hurt them.

[Francesca Yardenit Albertini, PhD]
On the contrary, racism, hate and disdain of human life strongly emerge on your web-site. "Love for Israel" does not mean "hate towards the others".

[Masada2000.org Response]
Take all your Tikkun bulls**t and shove it! There is nothing wrong with (1) fighting for the survival of Israel (you call that racism), (2) hatred of those who have murdered and continue to murder your fellow Jews and (3) disdain for those who strap TNT onto their own Arab children's chests for the sole purpose of murdering Israeli children. Sorry if I don't have the patience to teach a rattlesnake to French Kiss right after it tried to sink its fangs into me!

[Francesca Yardenit Albertini, PhD]
By the way, your [s**t] list could badly influence some sick minds (do you remember Rabin's murderer?) and put at risk the people listed in it.

[Masada2000.org Response]
The only "sick minds" we're trying to reach are minds like yours.

[Francesca Yardenit Albertini, PhD]
Obviously, you are free to express your opinions on everything, but surely you are not allowed to offend or even to put at risk the ones who do not share your "Weltanschauung".

[Masada2000.org Response]
Yes, we are allowed to "express" our opinions. We are also "allowed" to offend those who offend us. And you, Dr. Francesca Yardenit Albertini, piss us off! If we really wanted to "put people at risk, we would have include their email addresses (albertin@math.unipd.it) and phone numbers (049/8275966) on our timely list of S(elf)- H(ating)- I(srael)- T(hreatening) Judenrats. One more thing, "professor." Take that fifty dollar "Weltanschauung" word and shove that as well. I'm not impressed with your use of German words nor with your pseudo-intellectualism... especially when it puts Jews at risk. By the way, your Italy is full of Muslims. Have you noticed? Some day, they'll come looking for you and you'll be the first to head for Israel!

 

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